N20 and N26 Engine: Various VANOS System Faults Stored in DME MODEL E84 E89 F10 F25 F30 F31 F34 . 131401 Intermittent VANOS (variable cam shaft timing) exhaust cold start not controllable I have a SULEV vehicle so its definitely an N20 engine. This way I dont have to set up any timing if I do it one at the time. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 Example: 180101 or 1B9308 or 30FF Enter fault code Emissions Standard The car has 103,000 miles. I guess I can continue to enjoy the car and see what happens or sell it. Most likely you have broken timing chain guides and the whole timing set will need to be replaced. Im wondering if I can just replace those bolts with new steel ones , my car is out of warranty and it has not develop any issues yet , but as precautionary measure I was wondering if this is possible? Maybe not as loud as before but still noisy. 61 00 710 Refer to KSD2 Programming / encoding control unit(s) Im planning to buy a used 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i and its in the list. F25 Sorry I dont see any video,,,,ok when you say the starter and engine dont appear to make attempt to start,,,,,question does the engine turn over when you are trying to start the car,,,,,question does the engine make any sound when trying to start the car,,,if the engine does not turn over when trying to start car,,,,try and turn the engine by hand from the front lower crankshaft bolt and see if the engine will turn. The old oil filter was stuck onto the basket. Hello there, loving your info. The last oil change was two years ago but only 2200 miles were driven. Thank you!! The timing chain & guides are bathed in engine oil, not fuel. 130308 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, position not reached I saw a video where the chap replaced it without the locks and I thought it was an easy DIY. My daughters car had the timing chain issue N20. everything in the vehicle works extremely well. Hi there I have a 2013 BMW f30 320 d EFF engine N47 T EUR model N47D20O1 production date 25/03/2013 ,does this engine have timing chain problems 175.000 Kilometers. It cannot be timing. Now im getting vanos inlet, outlet codes, along with vanos camshaft jammed for both intake and exhaust. This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B12 15 13 dated September 2013. The exhaust cam had the following desired/actual degrees: 0.6/-9, 20/17, 11/9, 20/17. Only in eco or comfort mode when I drive carefully or just keeping a normal speed at low rpm. 2D54 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Non-adjustable Thanks for any input. Then I used ISTA and diagnosed the exhaust side. It is really a shame that BMW does not communicate on the subject, especially since here in Europe the problem is not repeated while in the United States it seems widespread. I would just pay attention to any abnormal whine noise,,,,there is no maintenance on the timing chain. Nope,,,,its up to the dealership to make the call for BMW if they will fix the timing chain issue on your car under the TSB. 130304 I bought a used 2012 528i with 109k miles about 4 months ago. Clean both solenoids and reinstall. The oil temperature was 90 C. Once the car started without faults the oil level check worked fine. Ask an Expert Car Questions BMW Questions 3,220 Satisfied Customers Roger is online now Related BMW Questions Have an issue after replacing valve cover gasket the car has 131908 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Position not reached Neither the VANOS units nor the solenoids have been replaced. The BMW N20 is a 1.6 and 2.0 L (98 and 122 cu in) turbocharged four-cylinder DOHC petrol engine with variable valve lift and variable valve timing which replaced the N53 (or BMW N52 in some markets) and was produced from 2011 to 2017 by BMW. Its hard to say what the problem is without see the car and performing some test,,,but it doesnt sound good when the low oil pressure light came on,,,sound like something major happened internal inside the engine. One customer describe his 2013 BMW F18 525Li with 61000km mileage got trouble.The car engine warning light on and central display "Transmission malfunction".But it can start engine and accelerate normally.More repair cases about BMW,please check here:BMW Trouble Repair Use BMW ISID to diagnose,got trouble code as below: Fault Code: 135401 Fault Explanation: Valvetronic: overloaded 61 00 730 Refer to KSD2 Programming/encoding control unit(s) While mine does have some kind ofticking noise when it starts up, and I had noticed it prior to buying it, a mechanic I had check out the vehicle prior to the purchase said that all BMW engines make that noise and it is nothing to worry about. 130108 VANOS, intake, control fault, position not reached SHAME ON BMW!!!!! I bought an x3 28ix build on 07/2015, model 2016 with 124000km. You referenced this TSB in your comment to Ronnie back in 2017. Thats a good possibility thats the timing chain issue. Up to that point the engine was smooth as silk!! Thanks for the input, do you think dealership will take my picture as evidence and approve chain replacement? Yesterday I did get all the fault codes cleared. Question,,,,,why did we replace the DME with a used one,,,that might be a problem,,,,a used DME can not be used because it is programmed and encoded to a different car,,,,what is wrong with your DME? It would get to 17% and quit. if I have used the tool how it is possible no to be on timing ?! E84 and E89: I would get this taken care now,,,,,I dont like that whine noise and that rattle noise during start up,,,take care of this now. Hi. BMW INTAKE VANOS ACTUATOR SOLENOID LOCATION REPLACEMENT EXPLAINED F30 F31 F32 F33 F34 428i 328i 320i 420i 418i 318i 316iIf you are trying to find where the i. This turbocharged 2.0L inline-four was considered a replacement to the BMW N52 a naturally-aspirated, inline-six engine. For reasons I dont understand the faults are cleared. Click on the It started during a hot day waiting at a traffic light. So I have an US 2013 BMW sdrive28i with 109k miles build date 02/2013. 1c0102 F34 I dont think they will take your picture as evidence,,,,but you could give it a try it wouldnt hurt, Hello- Hi greatings from Norway i have also a Bmw 320i GT-xdrive with 97k-km i dont hear any winning on the chain.I dont find in your list f34 320i Gt from 07.2013 that means that is not afected or just is not on the list i called allso BMW-and they said that my car is not on the extendet waranty list.Im verry stresed with this timming chain issue every time when i go on the car i listen to the engine is like ridding a time bomb.I am paning to change the timming chain at 150k-km even if is not making the noise.And whi there so many 328i afected and 320i not does it matter if mine is a xdrive?does the chain is more under load fi the care is x-drive? When retrieving BMW check engine light codes with an OBD II scan tool, proceed as follows: 1. module. Yes you have a 2015 you have a better chance of no timing chain issues. thanks for the input. to performing repairs, please see SI B01 02 11 for Emissions Warranty Coverage and refer to the possible oil pump chain broken? Previous posts of timing chain upgrade explains my experience. They look ok. Do you think it can be a ECU or software related issue? Could you please guide me? Also after cold start also misfire error pops up. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34 Looked at my timing chain and there seems to be some play in the chain. Changed the exhaust VANOS. It is possible without the timing tools, but if you risk needing to re-time the engine if something moves. Then I decided to switch out the actuators to see if the fault was going to move. I bought 2012 X1 with 85,000km and after reading different posts makes me worried about the timing chain issue, I called the dealer they said there is no recall on this vehicle except driver side air bag! My engine is N52 But when I try to test VANOS data via ISTA it gives no data, only 0. I assume that the f31 328i RW could also be affected ? Ok,,,a couple of question,,,you said you tested the vanos solenoid but have you replaced them,,,also have the vanos unit been replaced?,,,,and one more thing has oil and filter change been done recently,,,,because dirty filter and oil can cause a sticky solenoid. Code 131501 returned. and if necessary, also Took the car to an independent shop this morning and he just called and told me its code P2609 which means engine is running too lean. Im wondering do I need to have the 7/70 warranty to get BMW covered on this timing chain issue? So I was just under by kilometers and by time (Delivery was Aug 2012). be claimed with separate labor operations under the defect code listed above; refer to KSD2. Two questions: Should I be concerned about the timing chain/guides issue in her vehicle? Its hard to say without performing some test with a diagnostic equipment. 133E10 -permanent valvetronic system: deactivated, adjustment fault too frequent Maybe I should replace them? There was an audible whine heard at idle from the front of the engine so the timing chain and guide was replaced ahead of total failure. 2D57 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Position not reached This website is not affiliated with BMW AG in any way, and should not be confused with the websites of BMW AG, BMW M GmbH. My daughters 2013 survived. SITUATION Hi Hi, I have little complicated problem with F30 N20B20 2012 engine.. comming in shop with cold start issuesafter replacing the broken high pressure pump and reseting adaptations, changing oilI have DTC about wrong exhaust camshaft installation position. The actual degree values for both varied by a few degrees and the actual angle shown is my average value. Could this be the timing chain? is there a chance that he is wrong? I've tested the soleniods and they are both good. I have 2013 x3 with N20 that just finished replacing timing chains guides tensioners etc. Would there be a difference between our 2 continents with regard to production? When I go to accelerate now, the engine lags. My 2013 328i was doing the same thing. Yesterday when i was driving the car normally on the hwy the drivetrain malfunction popped up and car went into a reduced power mode. I couldnt tell based on reading the comments and such, should I call up my BMW dealer ASAP to get this fixed? I have done my timing chain after finish car starts up runs but would not idle until cel come on. The 7 years/70000 miles extended limited warranty follows the VIN, so if the 2015 X3 is on the list, the N20/N26 engine will be covered. Nic. If it is not on the list then it is not covered under that bulletin,,,but BMW does have some other programs,,,you need to go to the dealer and have your key remote reader performed and it will say if you are covered for any timing chain defects. This is a common issue on the N20 engine. The process of deleting the faults and restarting the car was performed many times. I can of course record my engine startup if thatll let you know the case). 3: 130304 VANOS (Variable camshaft timing) exhaust: control fault, camshaft stuck Thanks! I had to replace the valve lifters. Ok Ill do that. 1; 120408 Charging pressure control: switch-off as consequence I dont know if failing VANOS system should give any data to computer and should show somekind bad data or shouldnt show anything. i took it to a euro car guy that i know he flashed the transmission and that solved the problem, did you get it sorted I, having the same faults. I want to reset the timing on my N55 but I cant lock the Vanos units in its default position. I don't drive the car very aggressively, however i noticed that it didn't pull as hard as it used to a couple of days leading to the drivetrain malfunction. But the list post on this forum shows E84 X1 xDrive28i with N20 is a recall! I dont remember which hole it is in the flywheel,,,I do know once you have it in the correct hole you can not turn the motor back or forward that when you have found the correct TDC,,,,you should also make sure cylinder 1 piston is up. The BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty applies to BMW CPO vehicles that are still 130304 Vanos exhaust control fault camshaft jammed https://youtu.be/Frj0a82XfDo, He did not notice any whining- but do you hear whining in this second video? Dont have any shame,,,,because I should be the one that has shame because I dont know how to post a video on my own blog,,,I can post a video when I submit a blog but I dont know how when someone is asking me question if that makes any sense. Would you suspect this is more related to the software reprogram or is the timing off? Code 130104 Vanos intake control fault camshaft stuck So for the E89 Z4 only the 28i N20 powered model is affected and not the 20i sDrive? Was it how the faults were cleared that made the difference? I know I might be looking at replacing Vanos Actuator, central valve or the whole vanos unit. due to a low oil pressure and chain noise.now iam having inlet and outlet vanos dtc . U tell me, BMW my have a governor,,,but you still can over rev the engine,,,,it is a strange design that doesnt work,,,but I think BMW did this way so they can blame the customer for over reving the engine and not paying for a blown engine. Do not replace any parts. The oil was black though. 130104 E84 Note that the desired angle was constant. I tried to reset vanos with no success. Just realized the cut off is February 2015, not 2014. Its hard to say what the problem might be,,,but with the timing chain issue on that engine,,,I would look into that and maybe the exhaust vanos unit? 3. diagnosis system checking faults) I took it to the dealership for a diagnostic test and check-up. Hi bmwtechnician, The engine sounds exactly the same as the first time it started after the timing chain installation. This situation can occur as a customer complaint, or after performing 131908-VANOS inlet: cold start, Position not reached. bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. My vehicle was produced in 1/2013 with N20 engine and is currently at 97K miles, I have previously posted my engine whining sound in your blog and you said it was timing chain whining, I took a picture of my timing chain guide rail when replacing valve cover gasket and there was a slight crack on timing chain guide rail do you think thats enough evidence for the dealership to approve timing chain warranty on my vehicle? The actual angle also varied as in the previous test but on average was nearly equal to the desired angle. The boost disable was cleared by itself. Any suggestions on what to check on the Vanos for the 131501 code? He said the technician found this out by putting a scope in the engine but didnt explain it any further, nor did he address what the diagnostic code was for the sensor being on. However I did pay out of pocket to replace by valve cover gasket at a BMW dealership 2 years ago. Sorry for the confusion, No, If you are using a Main labor code for Code 130308 VANOS Exhaust Control fault position reached Content on bimmerfest.com is generated by its users. 2013 328i, check engine light is on, and the start stop feature does not work on my car. The extended warranty runs out in December. 96K views 5 years ago The BMW N54 and N52 typically have the most issues with this. Seems like the locking pins inside the units are jammed , I know thats what BMW wants you to do for repairs,,,,but we never use the vanos lock out default,,,,we just lock out the flywheel,lock out both camshafts and sensor wheels on the vanos unit,,,,we tighten the chain tensioner then torque down both vanos units,,,we then turn the motor over by hand and pin the motor and vanos again to make sure everything is at TDC again.,,,I hope this helps. The BMW N20, introduced in 2011, was the first four-cylinder BMW engine to be sold in the North American market in over a decade. The engine is running and seems to run pretty good although its still has that ticking sound that it had before. 01-18-2020, 01:07 PM #2 mandd Autobahn East Join Date How do I approach the dealer saying I hear a noise and whatnot for them to fix it while it is still under warranty? Should I worry about the timing chain issue? Even if the engine is warm it still gives these same fault codes. The problem could be caused by the fuel destroying the plastic guide. That test sets the cam to a desired number of degrees and reads the actual degrees. Hi, thank you for the reply. Also can sparkplugs have any influence to this situation? or Its hard to say but you might have a problem with vanos units, It could be electrical,,,but it doesnt say no signal or short circuit,,,,you could clear the faults and see what faults come back. What about the Timing Chain Sprocket, does it have to be in specific position before tighten Vanos central valve?! I have NO idea why haha, but i have a brand new tranny for it and got it installed by the dealership, been about 7k miles since that. 108f01 programming and it fails to program correctly or requires initialization, this additional work must Hello question I have 428xi n26 sulev f32 and I was looking at my key reader report and where it says Software version/updates section: I-level current integration level of vehicle F020-19-07-539. 'nhUO}gFXA}_+7"F.\ztVw@%/`>vny#(`YN:2ed_zI.. Like how does this whole update thing work why didnt I have this update system on my 2009 328xi. The N20 is a 2.0L inline-4 single turbo engine that replaced the naturally aspirated 3.0L N52/N53. Ive search, alot of people have it problem but no solution.It dont like bmw :). The auto repair labor rates vary by location, your vehicle's make and model, and even your engine type. 2012 bmw 528xi n20 replaced timing chain, guide and crank 2012 bmw 528xi n20 replaced timing chain, guide and crank sprocket. Here the vehicle was driven only at SP98. bimmerfest.com is an independent BMW enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. Im getting error codes 120408 Charging Pressure Control: Switched off. Page 4 of 4 Sorry there are no replacement bolts for the N20 vanes unit that I know of,,,,,yes they are aluminum,,,the N20 and N26 vanes unit are not common to break not like the older one on N51 and N52, No, no F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: It possible a software issue,,,we have seen that before. My 2013 X3 28i timing chain was replaced by BMW (no cost to me) in January 2019 at 107,000 km. Idk what to do at this point im devastated. With the VANOS solenoids removed, the spring loaded VANOS spool valve moved in and out easily. I reside in Alberta as well. Am I free of concern? Did you ever solve this? BMW says I caused engine cease. Problem is, mine arent locked. has reduced power output. charger. 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